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Re: Hey Tony D by: --hidden-- (The PUMA) |
May 26 8:20pm |
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Vetoes only come out when a legit case can be made pinning collusion against one or both parties.
Or - and I think MDS said this last season, Behrens did for sure - it'd be foolish not to vote to veto every single deal. You're managing your own team; you shouldn't have control over others'. Trading is a two-person dance. Frankly, what others think is completely irrelevant. If two managers thoroughly dissect a deal and come to the conclusion that that trade is in the best interest for their team, outsiders, of course, can have an opinion but the option to veto it? C'mon, bud. I've played fantasy for 10 years. I tend to lead my leagues in trades made. Only once have I had a deal vetoed (it was vetoed twice) and, surprisingly (or not), it was in a public league. I would have received Kobe for Kaman and AK47. This was years ago. No one had a grasp of how the objective of trading was to fill needs (positional/statistical). I was pulling like a 4 in points and 2 in steals, 11s in boards and blocks. I had to spoon feed them the concept of team needs. It was tragically pitiful. Consider: - Projected to exceed the 1250 limit by 120 innings. If you're pacing yourself, you're looking at roughly 8 innings per day. Meaning Tony D would have to relegate every pitcher on his roster to the bench for 15 consecutive days just to breakeven. So clearly pitching was expendable on his end. - Regardless of whether or not he kept Lincecum and Garcia, it's likely he'll fill the pitching cats with 10s across the board. Currently, he doesn't pull greater than a 4 in any offensive category. - Teixeira and Fielder will heat up and a returning Rollins will help but beyond that, where will the offensive production come from? Ethier is a top 10 bat and Posada is top 5 at his position and a clear upgrade over Razor Ramon(e) Hernandez (that worked out well!) The argument for a veto would go something along the lines of: It's just really, really lopsided. /ends case But yeah, I realize I'm uber convincing. I've been told that four times already this week. And it's only Wednesday! I'm not trying to start anything. My beef is with vetoes and I will speak up against them always, regardless of whether or not I'm involved in the deal in question. They just complicate things. For example, how would you go about deciding the fate of the V-Mart deal had it been pending and it was revealed that Martinez would be out two weeks? (This is not to jinx it.It's hypothetical.) At least in the Ethier/Lincecum deal there was an understanding that injured players would exchange hands but those terms aren't agreed upon if a freak injury occurs and Martinez is out for two months (Again. Sorry, Razz boys. Unintentional). Would you veto? If was processed, would you overturn it? Rant complete
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| 10/4 | 9:30 am | 219 Re: Last day, make it count | --hidden-- (KFFL) |
| 10/3 | 7:22 pm | 218 Re: Last day, make it count | --hidden-- (JoseCanseco=Honor) |
| 10/3 | 6:29 pm | 217 Re: Last day, make it count | --hidden-- (The Mighty Mollusks) |
| 10/3 | 5:47 pm | 216 Re: Wow the bottom four in this league suck... | --hidden-- (So Far Spheres) |
| 10/3 | 12:15 pm | 215 Re: Last day, make it count | --hidden-- (JoseCanseco=Honor) |
| 10/3 | 9:50 am | 214 Last day, make it count | --hidden-- (Million $$$ Sleeper) |
| 9/17 | 2:14 pm | 213 Re: Wow the bottom four in this league suck... | --hidden-- (JoseCanseco=Honor) |
| 9/17 | 10:06 am | 212 Re: Wow the bottom four in this league suck... | --hidden-- (Million $$$ Sleeper) |
| 9/17 | 9:28 am | 211 Wow the bottom four in this league suck... | --hidden-- (JoseCanseco=Honor) |
| 8/22 | 1:06 pm | 210 one week for trading | --hidden-- (Million $$$ Sleeper) |
| 8/11 | 11:24 am | 209 TRADE DEADLINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pitching available. | --hidden-- (The PUA) |
| 8/11 | 9:34 am | 208 Re: consider this a warning mollusks | --hidden-- (The Mighty Mollusks) |
| 8/10 | 2:39 pm | 207 Looking to trade for a 1B | --hidden-- (FB365) |
| 8/8 | 5:32 pm | 206 closers for sale | --hidden-- (Razzball) |
| 8/3 | 11:29 am | 205 Re: Congrats to Paul Bourdett (PUA) | --hidden-- (KFFL) |
| 8/2 | 5:25 pm | 204 Re: Congrats to Paul Bourdett (PUA) | --hidden-- (FB365) |
| 8/2 | 9:34 am | 203 consider this a warning mollusks | --hidden-- (Million $$$ Sleeper) |
| 8/1 | 5:50 pm | 202 Re: Congrats to Paul Bourdett (PUA) | --hidden-- (The Baby Grandersons) |
| 7/30 | 9:38 pm | 201 Re: Wilson Ramos??? | --hidden-- (Million $$$ Sleeper) |
| 7/30 | 6:59 pm | 200 Re: Wilson Ramos??? | --hidden-- (B-Chad) |
| 7/30 | 5:39 pm | 199 Wilson Ramos??? | --hidden-- (Million $$$ Sleeper) |
| 7/30 | 4:30 am | 198 Re: Congrats to Paul Bourdett (PUA) | --hidden-- (JoseCanseco=Honor) |
| 7/29 | 7:38 pm | 197 Re: Congrats to Paul Bourdett (PUA) | --hidden-- (The Mighty Mollusks) |
| 7/29 | 6:21 pm | 196 Re: Congrats to Paul Bourdett (PUA) | --hidden-- (B-Chad) |
| 7/29 | 1:59 pm | 195 Re: Congrats to Paul Bourdett (PUA) | --hidden-- (Sarris/RotoGraphs) |
| 7/29 | 12:30 pm | 194 Re: Congrats to Paul Bourdett (PUA) | --hidden-- (The PUA) |
| 7/29 | 10:59 am | 193 Re: Congrats to Paul Bourdett (PUA) | --hidden-- (Million $$$ Sleeper) |
| 7/29 | 10:31 am | 192 Congrats to Paul Bourdett (PUA) | --hidden-- (The Sherpas) |
| 7/13 | 6:56 am | 191 Starting Pitching Available | --hidden-- (The PUA) |
| 7/9 | 10:57 am | 190 Re: Re:the king has left the building | --hidden-- (JoseCanseco=Honor) |
| 7/9 | 7:28 am | 189 Re:the king has left the building | --hidden-- (Million $$$ Sleeper) |
| 7/9 | 5:10 am | 188 "King" Arthur Rhodes | --hidden-- (JoseCanseco=Honor) |
| 6/26 | 12:55 pm | 187 Challenge | --hidden-- (FP911.com) |
| 6/22 | 9:55 am | 186 yeah that's right Sherpa | --hidden-- (Million $$$ Sleeper) |
| 6/22 | 9:21 am | 185 Re: Ripley's Believe It and Hate on It | --hidden-- (Million $$$ Sleeper) |
| 6/22 | 8:23 am | 184 Ubaldo on the block | --hidden-- (FB365) |
| 6/21 | 4:56 pm | 183 Re: Ripley's Believe It and Hate on It | --hidden-- (The Mighty Mollusks) |
| 6/21 | 9:43 am | 182 Ripley's Believe It and Hate on It | --hidden-- (Million $$$ Sleeper) |
| 6/11 | 10:01 pm | 181 Re: whack-a-mole | --hidden-- (Million $$$ Sleeper) |
| 6/11 | 11:49 am | 180 I think it's kind of whack | --hidden-- (The PUA) |
| 5/31 | 9:27 pm | 179 Re: Lincecum versus Ubaldo match-up to kick off the week | --hidden-- (Million $$$ Sleeper) |
| 5/31 | 9:16 pm | 178 Re: Lincecum versus Ubaldo match-up to kick off the week | --hidden-- (The PUMA) |
| 5/31 | 8:20 pm | 177 Re: Lincecum versus Ubaldo match-up to kick off the week | --hidden-- (Million $$$ Sleeper) |
| 5/31 | 6:17 pm | 176 Re: Lincecum versus Ubaldo match-up to kick off the week | --hidden-- (The PUMA) |
| 5/31 | 6:12 pm | 175 Re: Lincecum versus Ubaldo match-up to kick off the week | --hidden-- (The PUMA) |
| 5/31 | 3:20 pm | 174 Re: Lincecum versus Ubaldo match-up to kick off the week | --hidden-- (Million $$$ Sleeper) |
| 5/31 | 2:35 pm | 173 Re: Lincecum versus Ubaldo match-up to kick off the week | --hidden-- (The PUMA) |
| 5/30 | 6:50 pm | 172 Lincecum versus Ubaldo match-up to kick off the week | --hidden-- (The PUMA) |
| 5/29 | 6:54 pm | 171 Re: Hey MDS | --hidden-- (So Far Spheres) |
| 5/28 | 7:50 am | 170 fun exercise | --hidden-- (Million $$$ Sleeper) |
| 5/28 | 7:45 am | 169 how dare you Mighty Mollusks | --hidden-- (Million $$$ Sleeper) |
| 5/28 | 7:44 am | 168 Re: Hey MDS | --hidden-- (Million $$$ Sleeper) |
| 5/28 | 6:12 am | 167 Hey MDS | --hidden-- (The PUA) |
| 5/27 | 6:13 pm | 166 Re: Hey Tony D | --hidden-- (JoseCanseco=Honor) |
| 5/27 | 1:59 pm | 165 Re: Hey Tony D | --hidden-- (The Baby Grandersons) |
| 5/27 | 12:48 pm | 164 Re: Hey Tony D | --hidden-- (Million $$$ Sleeper) |
| 5/27 | 12:25 pm | 163 Re: Hey Tony D | --hidden-- (JoseCanseco=Honor) |
| 5/27 | 11:48 am | 162 Re: Hey Tony D | --hidden-- (Million $$$ Sleeper) |
| 5/27 | 11:05 am | 161 Re: Hey Tony D | --hidden-- (The PUMA) |
| 5/27 | 6:15 am | 160 Re: Hey Tony D | --hidden-- (The Baby Grandersons) |
| 5/27 | 5:04 am | 159 Re: Hey Tony D | --hidden-- (JoseCanseco=Honor) |
| 5/27 | 3:58 am | 158 Re: Hey Tony D | --hidden-- (The Mighty Mollusks) |
| 5/26 | 9:00 pm | 157 Re: Hey Tony D | --hidden-- (Million $$$ Sleeper) |
| 5/26 | 8:49 pm | 156 Re: Hey Tony D | --hidden-- (JoseCanseco=Honor) |
| 5/26 | 8:21 pm | 155 Re: Hey Tony D | --hidden-- (Million $$$ Sleeper) |
| 5/26 | 8:20 pm | 154 Re: Hey Tony D | --hidden-- (The PUMA) |
| 5/26 | 7:54 pm | 153 Re: Hey Tony D | --hidden-- (The PUA) |
| 5/26 | 7:09 pm | 152 Re: Hey Tony D | --hidden-- (The Mighty Mollusks) |
| 5/26 | 3:02 pm | 151 I have embargo'd a-mak15 | --hidden-- (Million $$$ Sleeper) |
| 5/26 | 2:56 pm | 150 He sold it really well. | --hidden-- (The Baby Grandersons) |
| 5/26 | 8:49 am | 149 Re: Hey Tony D | --hidden-- (Million $$$ Sleeper) |
| 5/26 | 7:28 am | 147 Hey Tony D | --hidden-- (The PUA) |
| 5/25 | 6:42 pm | 146 Re: did I win Beef the Series? | --hidden-- (Million $$$ Sleeper) |
| 5/25 | 9:05 am | 145 Re: did I win Beef the Series? | --hidden-- (JoseCanseco=Honor) |
| 5/25 | 8:54 am | 144 Re: did I win Beef the Series? | --hidden-- (Million $$$ Sleeper) |
| 5/25 | 8:50 am | 143 Re: did I win Beef the Series? | --hidden-- (JoseCanseco=Honor) |
| 5/25 | 8:14 am | 142 did I win Beef the Series? | --hidden-- (Million $$$ Sleeper) |
| 5/25 | 7:22 am | 141 Re: Great minds think alike... | --hidden-- (JoseCanseco=Honor) |
| 5/25 | 7:19 am | 140 Re: Great minds think alike... | --hidden-- (Sarris/RotoGraphs) |
| 5/24 | 6:18 pm | 139 Grey/Rudy - sorry about the V-Mart injury | --hidden-- (The PUA) |
| 5/24 | 1:19 pm | 138 Re: Great minds think alike... | --hidden-- (Million $$$ Sleeper) |
| 5/24 | 12:53 pm | 137 Great minds think alike... | --hidden-- (JoseCanseco=Honor) |
| 5/24 | 12:19 pm | 136 anyone need a 1B/3B/CI? | --hidden-- (Million $$$ Sleeper) |
| 5/23 | 11:27 am | 135 yes! WAR David Eckstein! | --hidden-- (Million $$$ Sleeper) |
| 5/22 | 9:28 am | 134 Re: Fred Savage Lewis | --hidden-- (Million $$$ Sleeper) |
| 5/22 | 9:03 am | 133 Re: Fred Savage Lewis | --hidden-- (JoseCanseco=Honor) |
| 5/22 | 6:56 am | 132 Fred Savage Lewis | --hidden-- (Million $$$ Sleeper) |
| 5/21 | 10:07 am | 131 Re: Blake | --hidden-- (Million $$$ Sleeper) |
| 5/21 | 7:44 am | 130 Blake | --hidden-- (Sarris/RotoGraphs) |
| 5/20 | 6:20 pm | 129 Re: Jason Frasor? | --hidden-- (The PUMA) |
| 5/20 | 3:39 pm | 128 Re: Jason Frasor? | --hidden-- (Million $$$ Sleeper) |
| 5/20 | 3:35 pm | 127 that is an interesting trade | --hidden-- (Million $$$ Sleeper) |
| 5/20 | 3:33 pm | 126 Jason Frasor? | --hidden-- (Million $$$ Sleeper) |
| 5/20 | 12:03 pm | 125 First Blockbuster | --hidden-- (JoseCanseco=Honor) |
| 5/11 | 8:30 pm | 124 Re: Ha | --hidden-- (The PUMA) |
| 5/11 | 10:23 am | 123 Re: Ha | --hidden-- (Million $$$ Sleeper) |
| 5/11 | 9:31 am | 122 Re: Ha | --hidden-- (The PUA) |
| 5/11 | 7:58 am | 121 Re: Ha | --hidden-- (The Baby Grandersons) |
| 5/11 | 7:11 am | 120 Ha | --hidden-- (The PUA) |